I’m not planning to fully blog this, so check it if you haven’t already: Maura Johnston chose to blog the release of “Tonight”…she basically praised it (though in a confusingly negatives-as-positives way). As usual, she was treated a hard time or straight-up silence for her efforts. But at least she makes them!
This is from a Pennsylvania newspaper article–kind of goes along with what we were talking about on the previous thread, how much JB is loved.
Tuesday, July 29, 2008
For CourtbMASH, Friday’s Jonas Brother concert was, in a word, perfect.
“Last night I attended the Jonas Brothers concert at Hersheypark Stadium. The weather: perfect, The food: always good, the audience: screaming little girls.
“They played a good show, and I ended up enjoying myself very much. The thing I loved the most about the boys (besides my newfound love for them, because girls, I finally agree with you, they’re hot) was how much I could tell that they truly loved their fans. I watched Joe Jonas bring a little girl not more then 5 years old onstage and let her sing with him.
“After one of their most famous songs, the three were standing on posts high on the stage as the girls screamed and cried for them, the look on their faces made the concert for me. The look of amazement and disbelief said that they were still in shock that they were loved by so many.”
They played 4 or 5 songs – it was during the time when many of their fans could not get tix to the BOBW tour – and you could tell that they really wanted to be able to do more for us, put on a great show (which they did anyway incidentally). I mean, what is better than a sing along with 1500 or so fans and three musicians you love and admire? I mean, I was pretty well sunk before that, but after, I was sunk sunk sunk.
I feel so lucky to have been able to be at the show. It was very special (I think their blog post on the show reflected that as well).
Mememoi and I were cracking up at “It is always nice to visit Ohio…” IDK why, but it was funny.
I wish I had known about them in their ‘mall in-store’ days…I think the only time they’ve come to Boise is when they opened for Aly & AJ way back when. At the time, my daughter was a huge A&A fan (not anymore, after the whole Joe/AJ thing) anyway, I couldn’t take her to the show because I was going out of town. Hindsight is 20/20, right? Darn, I wished we would have went. I’m sure I would have started my love affair with them then.
Yeah mememoi, I agree with you re Maura Johnston – it was such an inscrutable article I had to read it three times before I finally decided she didn’t hate the song. And I’m STILL not really sure. But hey, at least she treats them like musicians.
Has everybody seen the cute vids of the guys playing kickball in Charlott, NC yesterday and golfing in Raleigh today? Apparently Nick hurt his ankle playing kickball, it looked like he was limping a little on the golf course. I’m glad they’re having some time for fun activities, they deserve a break.
I have to say that, although I was happy to see them in their golfing duds, I found it disturbing that they had been outed (by fellow golfers who called their daughters) and not able to keep their plans secret.
I guess that’s what being on the cover of everything gets you.
That commentary on the Hersheypark show is lovely. “still in shock that they were loved by so many.” That is a perfect description of what sets them apart. They actually have humility.
Appropos of nothing, but it’s an open post so why not – my daughter (8yrs.) cracked me up today. She said she knows why she and Nick Jonas are perfect for each other. When I asked why, she said because they both love Stevie Wonder and Swedish Fish candy. Then she said her sister (5yrs.) is perfect for Joe because “she’s quiet and he’s crazy, so he needs someone to calm him down.” I agreed, because how can you argue with logic like that?
Getting back to cpaig’s comment about the guys being ratted out by the golfers at the club where they were playing, I agree it is sad that they can’t even enjoy a morning’s golf without being hounded.
The privacy issue is such a double-edged sword for celebs. I applaud you ladies for your “No Paparazzi Pledge”. I feel absolutely that there MUST be limits on what the media is entitled to. Your stance was another thing that made me want to give this blog top spot on my Favorites list. I have some personal experience (not for myself, but people I have encountered through mine and my husband’s work) with how shamless the papparazzi can be. As a media consuming society, we are all responsible. Those of us who are ever in a position to do so, should take a stand.
The Jonas Brothers, in particular, are SO generous with their time, their gifts, theirselves. To go beyond the boundary of consent with regards to their images is dead wrong.
Thank you, coolmom! I wasn’t sure anyone ever even read that. It meant a lot to us…
I’d never liked any artist enough to realize how bad things have gotten in this regard in the internet age, but I don’t know how you can ignore it. And what went down with Garbo really validated that too. People just don’t THINK things THROUGH, I guess.
I agree absolutely. Low impulse control to an astonishing degree is ever-present in our technological society. People think that they are entitled to any information about anything about anyone. And if they have the means to obtain information, regardless of whether it’s right or wrong, they’re going to use their means. And common decency is nowhere in the equation. The really sad thing is that often artists have to close themselves off from their fans in ways that they don’t want to, but need to, as a means of self-preservation. I hope this doesn’t happen to the Jonas Brothers.
Coolmom—just FYI, your 8 year old is going to have to fight my 12 year old for Nick…she’s positive that I am going to be Nick’s future mother-in-law! I have to say I wouldn’t mind at all…and even my hubby says he wouldn’t mind that. Hehe
OK …. everytime the Jonas Brothers are referred to on the Disney Channel or wherever, they are “Jonas Brothers” not “The Jonas Brothers” have you noticed?? It sounds SO awkward to me. Like it is “The Doobie Brothers” – same thing. And The Cheetah Girls ARE The Cheetah Girls, not Cheetah Girls. So why are the Jonas Brothers “Jonas Brothers?”
flamom–I think it’s because JB’s actual band name is ‘Jonas Brothers’ and CG’s actual band name is ‘The Cheetah Girls’? I’m not exactly sure. I know, it sounds awkward when you’re talking about them to say, “…have you heard of Jonas Brothers?” instead of “…have you heard of The Jonas Brothers?” I guess I usually add the ‘the’. 🙂
I like to talk about them wherever I go. 🙂 Yesterday, I took my daughter to get her replacement cell phone activated (long story) and the nice man at the Verizon store made a comment about all the ‘JB’ and ‘Kevin, Joe & Nick’ and ‘Jonas Brothers’ doodled all over her old cell phone cover. He said, “Oh, are you a Jonas Brothers fan?” And I said, “WE are JB fans! We just went to a concert 2 weeks ago and WE got to meet them!” I think he was impressed. 🙂
coolmom, you put that beautifully about the low impulse control (I will paraphrase it as “people stink!” haha, no)
I personally felt really weird when those Dallas papers leaked the info about their house purchase, and even published the power of attorney document! But no one seemed to bat an eyelash. And the “journalists” who repeated it all pulled a “well so and so did it first, and worse”. Ethics are hard to come by.
It is almost like the “data” thing. You know, how technically data is plural so people will say “the data are evidence.” Though my American Heritage College Dictionary says that it is acceptable to say “the data is evidence.” Just one of those usage things.
But I agree, they should keep the “the” in there, even if it is not technically in the name of the band.
And as you can see – though we do not regurgitate gossip, or things we see as invasive – it doesn’t mean we don’t see it (we just feel guilty about looking at it).
We just figure, if people have their Google alerts (which we all do) you get that stuff, we don’t need to reiterate it.
Along the same lines, I could care less about their private lives – esp for Nick. I just don’t see the point of caring about the love life of a 15 year old. They should be allowed to keep a part of their life private.
I was so proud when Nick told Michael Yo that they would not ever tell anyone if they were in a relationship. You go!
Unfortunately though, this puts them in the position of fibbing allot or playing the game of semantics.
Agreed, cpaig, about putting them in the position of fibbing or playing the semantics game. So when Nick is asked, “Are you dating xxx” and he answers, “You know, there are so many rumors going around.” The general public says, “A-ha! He didn’t deny it!” It drives me insane. At 15, are you making a lifetime commitment by dating someone? Of course not. I think JB’s publicists worry that if the boys admit they are dating someone, we won’t want to buy their records anymore. Their publicists want them to be seen by the public as ‘available’. Cuh-raaay-say, as my daughter would say.
I, too, wondered at the statement that they wouldn’t tell anyone if they were dating someone. I think the Jonas Brothers are also valued for their honesty/uprightness, and it does seem to put them into a position where they’d have to lie. (How long could you skirt the issue with the media following their every move?) For the last year or so (as far as I can tell), all 3 of them say that they’re not dating anyone and always consistently deny that they’re dating specific people when asked (ie. Miley, Chelsea Staub, Demi, Selena). Except for the most recent interview I heard, all of the denials were pretty outright/emphatic. I’m curious myself if the whole situation will become a problem if/when they do date. (They’re so busy right now, it’s a wonder they’d have any time to date!)
What I sometimes wonder about is they always say that they are never dating/in a relationship with anyone; and they also always say that they get inspiration for their songs from their life. How can both those statements be true? Their songs are often about falling in and out of love, yet they claim they aren’t doing that with anybody. How can that be?
But they also say they do not have “girlfriends” and are “single”.
I think these can all be true…since you’re single ’til you’re married.
And a girlfriend indicates a committed seriousness which, even if they have a certain specific person they are focused on (and do you ever not at that age? well, as a girl, I didn’t) can still be technically true…especially the way they never stay in one place.
So, semantics, again. I don’t know if they personally would be willfully deceptive like that or if it’s a company taught thing. But it would stand up against any technical dishonesty.
But I am sure I could have written a song or two about the CRAAZAAY crushes I once had (sometimes the peeps didn’t even know).
Like Burnin’ Up is about being very attracted to someone instantly.
But you are right – Well – we know who Video Girl is about… or we think we know. It aint Miley. It is a little sordid and I am a little ashamed I know so much about it. I will just say it is about an ex of Kevin’s. They broke up last summer (ish)
As I said, I think they play word games sometimes, but I don’t think they really have time to have serious relationships.
I’ve seen speculation that Video Girl is about Kevin’s ex who was in the Year 3000 video. Is that who you’re talking about? See, I also know more than I should about such things. Not that it’s any of my business.
And you are right, great songs can be written from pure imagination. Obviously people as talented as JB can write anything. I just wonder if they are more involved with girls than they let on because they just don’t want to deal with the constant scrutiny any “relationship” would undergo. And who can blame them? Also, they are very young. When I think about the relationships (and I use the term loosely) that I had at 15, 18 and 20, NONE of them would have survived the kind of fishbowl effect JB lives under every day.
Yes, Coolmom, that is the one! I think she was also in another video by someone else. It is such a harsh song. I love it!
I think they do what they can and it is age appropriate. It seems they work as hard as possible to maintain friendships and such, I am sure it is hard. More power to ’em, that is what I say.
I TRY really hard not to care, because there is really no reason for me to. If anything I get agitated when people talk about their relationships, and press them about it, because I know it makes them uncomfortable.
I am sure it is like #2 on the questions they hate to be asked (right under the one about the purity rings.)
I guess I have also wondered how they write all the romantic songs with not so much actual experience. Esp Nick who writes a lot of the songs, and some of them when he was 12 or 13! They had to be about crushes I would think.
I feel like it must be very very difficult for them to date. I hope they find a way to do it as normally as possible.
I agree that the media’s prurient obsession about such things is ridiculous. And I’ve already made my rant about the media’s purity ring obsession, so I won’t make it here. I wish they would just shut up about something so juvenile. Honestly, they’re like hot and bothered middle-school kids.
My stomach hurts when they are endlessly forced to come up with a “celebrity crush” or something equally asinine. All I can think of is how much I would have hated to talk about such things at their age.
I LOVE that interview! It was great how Kevin stood up for Nick.
That interview also has Kevin drinking the bottle of water, one of my personal fave moments. It cracks me up!
And Joe talking about the crazy old lady “You thought we wouldn’t find you”. Classic.
And last but not least, Nick’s UFO story!! Great stuff.
They kill me with how unafraid they are to be themselves, and how really interesting they are as individuals. That’s why I get so indignant on their behalf when media won’t leave them alone about private stuff. It’s not like the interview won’t be fun and interesting without it!
I’ll bite. 🙂 Today my son and I went to 2 different Targets to look for 75% off clearance toys. We did better at the one we went to last night! The kids (I have 2) are outside playing with their new chalk stencil letters toy. My son LOVES the alphabet – he’s 5 on Aug 10 and has been crazy about letters since he turned 3. He also loves music these days. He does not like anything traditionally “boy.” I don’t know why?
Your son sounds awesome to me!! We adore our nephew, but he can be such a single-minded Traditional Boy in some ways (over the years, enduring hours-long lectures on Thomas the Tank Engine, Legos, Star Wars, Pokemon and Super Mario Brothers…it gets old)…but, he does break the mold in others. 🙂
Sounds like your guy is just doing his own thing. My girl just turned 5, herself (July 20)! I like this age. It’s so fun just getting them into everything and seeing what they respond to (or not). 😛
Wow! mememoi, our kids are so close in age. My son and his sister are BFFs. They do mostly everything together. She is not a huge alphabet fanatic like he is but she plays letter stuff with him if he wants. He likes to create different kinds of letters and to find every alphabet book in creation. Lately he has been distracted by first the Camp Rock music and now HSM and Hannah and Jonas Brothers music. Both kids are suddenly really into lyrics and playing CDs on their own CD players. I am actually really considering getting them iPods for Hanukkah and that thought would have shocked me last year (since they are so little). All he wants for his b-day is more music – he wants Cheetah Girls and Vanessa Hudgens and Disneymania stuff. I’ve been trying to think of some male voices that would be appropriate – I like Metro Station but their lyrics are not really kindergarten friendly … I’m considering Jesse McCartney but know nothing about him whatsoever. Thank goodness for the JB.
For whatever reason, my son has never gravitated to anything boy like superheroes, or cars, trains, firetrucks, construction stuff, Scooby Doo, Thomas, etc. He likes building types of toys and occasionally the kids do play with their little cars on the “car rug.” He likes reading and writing and looking at pictures of the kids on the Disney Channel (oh, and watching the Disney Channel and playing Disney Channel games on the computer). He also likes Kooky Pens.
It’s REALLY hard figuring out an appropriate look for his room! Nothing seems to be right. He’s got his toddler room still but needs a big boy update. Maybe a rockstar theme might work – he wanted the alphabet but seems to have backed down from that recently.
My daughter loves to play with my iPod, I suppose it is partially hers in a way, because I let her download music and TV that she likes (it really comes in handy as we commute). I had an old MP3 player I used to let her use, which fit about 20 songs on it at a time, back in the day it was filled with Wiggles, Dan Zanes, and, of course, early Jonas Brothers. I would think a little iPod would be an amazing Hanukkah gift.
I love concerts, and we’ve tried to do that a lot. Lots of stuff under Disney’s auspices. She still enjoys the Wiggles at times – and one of the best shows we ever attended was Dan Zanes. I like that he incorporates a lot of rootsy sounds – blues, folk, country – into what he does. My girl is STILL psyched about meeting his drummer and getting her book signed by him (that + seeing Nick J on drums = guess what she’s getting for Christmas – sorry, neighbors).
We found another roots band for kids we loved, last year when we visited Woodstock to see a family show, and the performed, the Rowland’s Ramblin Family Band – she keeps this in heavy rotation. And she requests Laurie Berkner when we’re hanging out doing crafts, or whatever.
Lately, she’s gone a bit retro, thanks to a gift from my mother, and is playing and replaying “Free to Be You & Me”…which was (admittedly very liberal!) a book/music/TV program for families put out by Marlo Thomas in the 70s, which we adored as children. I didn’t expect it, but it got her really into Michael Jackson, lol! (He appears in one of the segments.)
Here is a recommendation that might be a perfect marriage of your son’s interests: Do you have “Here Come the ABCs” by They Might Be Giants? They are a wacky/smart group for adults that has been around forever (Cpaig was an avid listener from the beginning, and I always enjoyed them in her shadow). But now they are releasing kids’ albums on the Disney label. Their sound is fantastic; unique, nutty, fun, very offbeat. Check out this one or this one! They have a new album about numbers, this is our favorite track so far.
In terms of older kid music not labeled for families, I go on a case by case basis, you never know what you’re going to get in those lyrics. I have actually had better luck with exposing her to older music. I am taking the child to a music festival this weekend where Bob Dylan is performing and also Paramore…and then there are some not-family-friendly acts (ie. Lil Wayne! eek!), so we will see how much she notices and how much goes over her head…
But for music that we can both get really, really into, it does just remind you that the Jonas boys are a godsend.
OMG! Warm fuzzies! At YMCA Camp they actually had a physical manifestation (those goofy little pom poms with googly eyes and feet that were a sticker – or is that just what they were…)
I have to agree with all of Mememoi’s recommendations, especially TMBG (because I am such a HUGE fan of theirs) and the Rowland’s Ramblin Family Band. The best thing about them is that they won’t drive YOU crazy (which is the hallmark of good kids anything, I think.)
TMBG have this great song “Alphabet of Nations” which I love – we took LBF to a concert of theirs and in the car I was like – “I hope they sing Alphabet of Nations with new Nations!” (I am such a geek) and THEY DID! ( I was so excited – Mememoi can tell you -lol)
Oh my goodness, HOW could I forget Really Rosie?! We have it on the iPod but I NEED the DVD…and the good thing is, you can then listen to all the rest of Carole King’s music without worry. LBF and I spent an entire recent evening dueting “It’s Too Late”.
I am still trying to think of something more contemporary pop-rock examples, but I got nothin’. Jesse McCartney is very pop-R&B, which isn’t really my genre, although we’ve made exceptions and have been enjoying some Jordin Sparks and Chris Brown a lot over the last few months. LBF likes Chris Brown and he’s a strong male vocalist. I could sure watch him dance for an hour or two, personally.
Otherwise, I kinda got nothin’ in contemporary rock that would be friendly to a 5 year old AND my own sensibilities. I would be interested in any suggestions myself.
For now, better just to dig into the original 70s-80s stuff…which I have been doing a lot lately (Cheap Trick, Flock of Seagulls, anyone?) I am also having a little fun downloading the Billboard Top 100 songs from the early 90s – when I was a tweener – and slowly weeding through the (copious!) garbage (what an era) to find some stuff I want to listen to with LBF – the big winner from yesterday was En Vogue’s “Free Your Mind” – haha. I totally forgot about that song. 😛
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